Trapdoor Rifles

John S. wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:28 am Well, one state IS a WHOLE LOT WORSE that we knew.

New Jersey is enemy occupied area, unsafe for freedom loving Americans. If trapped there, instead of wasting time drooling over great old guns, people need to be looking into fleeing to a free state. Get your house on the market right away, take whatever you can get and leave the state forever.

Yeah, family, jobs, friends and all that, but they should be packing up too.

Your savings in taxes will help pay for the move. And, if you own just about any gun, it is likely to be illegal now in NJ, and your lawyer costs if discovered will be megabucks as well, and better to pay the movers than the lawyers. The law was written and passed by idiot politicians. It will be enforced by nice cops who can only go by what the law says, no matter how stupid or nonsensical it is. Prosecutions will be settled in court by lawyers and judges who know nothing about guns (except they hate them) and are constrained by the idiotic language of the law passed by the legislature and signed by the governor.

For a complete run down on HOW BAD their nonsense is, read it all below. This is truly unbelievable. It is also a warning that every gun owner needs to be very involved and active in political and legislative action in their state, so your state does not adopt similar laws.

Here is a link to an explanation of NJ's new law. If you live in NJ, it is time to flee to freedom while you still can. Kalifornia, New Yawk, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Oregon and Washington are nearly as bad, and competing to become worse than NJ.
https://www.evannappen.com/new-jersey-e ... s-history/

Fred Gaarde wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:50 pm Gunbroker apologized and said that before I can sell, they now require additional verification of who I am by supplying my birth date. However after giving it, I’m told that I still need to put in a Month of my birth. This is after I’ve put it in over and over.

I think that I’ll pound the muzzles into the ground and use the rifles as Tomato Stakes.

Fred Gaarde wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:50 pm Gunbroker apologized and said that before I can sell, they now require additional verification of who I am by supplying my birth date. However after giving it, I’m told that I still need to put in a Month of my birth. This is after I’ve put it in over and over.

I think that I’ll pound the muzzles into the ground and use the rifles as Tomato Stakes.

John S. wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:17 pm INAL, but I work on legislative issues in another state and see this as the relevant language. Note that it is overly broad and inclusive, and while ostensibly aimed at "ghost gun kits" the fact that it might apply to lots of other guns is undoubtedly a plus, not a problem as far as the gun banners are concerned. I defer to any actual lawyers, especially in NJ who want to spell out the details in plain English:

The ban on possession of firearms lacking serial numbers applied by a federal licensee is in 2C:39-3.n and refers to receivers as defined in 2C:39-9.k:
QUOTE.
"n. Firearms without a serial number. Any person who knowingly possesses a firearm manufactured or otherwise assembled using a firearm frame or firearm receiver as defined in subsection k. of N.J.S. 2C:39-9 which is not imprinted with a serial number registered with a federally licensed manufacturer including, but not limited to, a firearm manufactured or otherwise assembled from parts purchased or otherwise obtained in violation of subsection k. of N.J.S.2C:39-9, is guilty of a crime of the third degree."

{Here is 2C:39-9k:]
k. Purchasing firearm parts to manufacture a firearm without a serial number. In addition to any other criminal penalties provided under law, a person who, with the purpose to manufacture or otherwise assemble a firearm and without being registered or licensed do so as provided in chapter 58 of Title 2C of the New Jersey Statutes, purchases or otherwise obtains separately or as part of a kit a firearm frame or firearm receiver which is not imprinted with a serial number registered with a federally licensed manufacturer or any combination of parts from which a firearm without a serial number may be readily manufactured or otherwise assembled, but which does not have the capacity to function as a firearm unless manufactured or otherwise assembled is guilty of a crime of the second degree. Notwithstanding the provisions of N.J.S. 2C:1-8 or any other law, a conviction under this subsection shall not merge with a conviction for any other criminal offense and the court shall impose separate sentences upon a violation of this subsection and any other criminal offense.

As used in this subsection, “firearm frame or firearm receiver” means the part of a firearm that provides housing for the firearm’s internal components, such as the hammer, bolt or breechblock, action, and firing mechanism, and includes without limitation any object or part which is not a firearm frame or receiver in finished form but is designed or intended to be used for that purpose and which may readily be made into a firearm frame or receiver through milling or other means.
END QUOTE
(SOURCE- https://www.lawserver.com/law/state/new ... chapter_39)

Fred Gaarde wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:50 pm Gunbroker apologized and said that before I can sell, they now require additional verification of who I am by supplying my birth date. However after giving it, I’m told that I still need to put in a Month of my birth. This is after I’ve put it in over and over.

I think that I’ll pound the muzzles into the ground and use the rifles as Tomato Stakes.