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nhbandit
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Parts interchange

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Good morning and thanks for having me. I recently bought one of the Model 1870 barrelled receivers Dupage Trading Co incorrectly had listed as Model 1866. It has the short receiver nose with the rear sight (missing) located a tad in front of the receiver. I'd like to eventually have a fully functioning rifle but realize this is not going to be easy. I seem to remember a parts interchange chart of some sort that was maybe published by Bannerman but can't seem to find it. The parts for sale pages here were also a great reference to what fits what but they are gone. Has anyone saved them ? I'll post a couple pictures once I figure out how. Thank you
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TKacook
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Parts are out there, mostly on eBay. Model 1868 and 1870 parts will work. Breech blocks dated 1868, 1869 and 1870 will work. Locks are fairly easy to find, just need to have the correct hammer. Locks are usually dated 1863, 1864 and rarely 1865. S&S Firearms have parts too.

It's going to be an expensive build these days as parts prices have gone up. If you take your time you can save some money.

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Tom Trevor
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You can find that information in Dr Frascas 45-70 book two. Also suggest you get Dick Hosmers book
The .58 and .50 caliber rifles and carbines of the Springfield Armory 1865-1872. You are going on a long trip and the cost of individual parts may well exceed the cost of a complete rifle. Good luck with your project.
Think junk yard 500.00 car totaled sell parts off car 3-5K
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Dick Hosmer
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It's also in OM22, and Waite-Ernst's book (which is nowhere near as good as Al's, but is cheaper). It is not in my book.
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That wonderful table from Ordnance Memorandum 22 listing all the parts from Models 1855 through 1873 is now available on the Trapdoor site.

https://www.armscollectors.com/trapdoor ... 5-1873.pdf

When I have time, I will be adding a section for more "Reference Material on Trapdoors and Related items" but for right now, use the link above
(And, yes, it does omit the Model 1865 .58 caliber "First Allin" for reasons known only to Springfield Armory.)
nhbandit
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There it is ! Thank you. Would anyone know the correct nomenclature for the breech plug ? It's missing on my receiver.
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TKacook
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That is a great document John! Thanks for posting.
nhbandit
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Just a quick question because I'm new here. Is it customary for all posts and replies to require moderator approval ? And does that go away after a certain number of posts ? I'm an admin on multiple hot rod and car club pages so I do understand that spam is a huge problem. Thanks !
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nhbandit- You are correct, posts from new folks require moderator approval, and that is dropped after a while. (Not sure exactly how many posts).
Yeah, spam is a huge problem, but it seems to run in cycles.

Welcome and hope you find this place useful. Please feel free to participate, and newby questions are just as welcome as sage answers from the experts.
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