Just posting some interesting items

For anything related to Trapdoor era U.S. martial arms collecting.

Moderator: 45govt

User avatar
45govt
Posts: 78
Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:16 pm

Re: Just posting some interesting items

Post by 45govt »

Hello
I checked my collection and did not find the above photo on the firing line and the crop does not look like one I would have done, so probably off the interwebs? not sure as I have some stuff in storage.

So here are a couple that are in the collection

This is San Antonio rifle range from a collection from Lt. O. M. Smith
Attachments
imageedit_2_9796064521.jpg
imageedit_2_9796064521.jpg (234.94 KiB) Viewed 55737 times
Thank You
Don
45govt
Image
User avatar
45govt
Posts: 78
Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:16 pm

Re: Just posting some interesting items

Post by 45govt »

This is an interesting photograph of Phillip Reade, a Multigraph
Attachments
imageedit_2_2832537407.jpg
imageedit_2_2832537407.jpg (234.86 KiB) Viewed 55736 times
Thank You
Don
45govt
Image
User avatar
45govt
Posts: 78
Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:16 pm

Re: Just posting some interesting items

Post by 45govt »

This is a group of Engineer's, from a grouping of 1st Sgt. Theodore E. Royston
You will notice a pistol grip on one possibly two shooters
Attachments
imageedit_2_5766386381.jpg
imageedit_2_5766386381.jpg (235.34 KiB) Viewed 55735 times
imageedit_2_7553710888.jpg
imageedit_2_7553710888.jpg (233.88 KiB) Viewed 55735 times
imageedit_3_2868179162.jpg
imageedit_3_2868179162.jpg (238.69 KiB) Viewed 55735 times
Thank You
Don
45govt
Image
User avatar
45govt
Posts: 78
Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:16 pm

Re: Just posting some interesting items

Post by 45govt »

It would only let me put three photos on that post so here is the last the scores
Attachments
imageedit_2_4716530788.jpg
imageedit_2_4716530788.jpg (235.25 KiB) Viewed 55734 times
Thank You
Don
45govt
Image
User avatar
Dick Hosmer
Posts: 544
Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:05 pm
Location: Northern CA

Re: Just posting some interesting items

Post by Dick Hosmer »

Interestingly, the guy with the pistol grip is wearing the waist belt for the Palmer brace-yoke.
User avatar
45govt
Posts: 78
Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:16 pm

Re: Just posting some interesting items

Post by 45govt »

Thanks to Tom Trevor, he pointed out the photo in Al's book one on page 139 (lower) is very similar to the photo on Pg. two in this thread of the shooters on the range.
The upper photo in the book looks like the one attached here based on the open two story structure in the back ground, the attached photo is from the San Antonio rifle range group in the Lt. O. M. Smith group
Attachments
imageedit_1_7128007624.jpg
imageedit_1_7128007624.jpg (252.15 KiB) Viewed 55702 times
Thank You
Don
45govt
Image
throck3
Posts: 41
Joined: Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:27 pm

Re: Just posting some interesting items

Post by throck3 »

Dick,
Good observation on the brace system belts. When you enlarge the photo, I think you can see that they all were wearing the brace system belts. These seem to be the earlier Model 1872 Trial Brace System belts, though. Notice also, the prone positioned shooter has a Hagner No. 1 cartriudge box on his belt, positioned in the small of his back. This was the position worn in garrison as opposed to two of them on either side of the belt plate while in the field (with the brace system being worn). The Palmer system came out two years later in 1874, and the brace system loops were on the buckles and catches.

Attached are a couple photos of a M1874 Palmer Brace System belt plate that was found at the site of Cantonment on the North Fork of the Canadian River, in Oklahoma. The site was occupied by several companies of the 23rd Infantry and for a short time, a couple companies of the 4th Cavalry, circa 1879-1881.
Image[/img]
Attachments
IMG_1486.jpg
IMG_1486.jpg (185.86 KiB) Viewed 55674 times
IMG_1485.jpg
IMG_1485.jpg (188.12 KiB) Viewed 55674 times
User avatar
Dick Hosmer
Posts: 544
Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:05 pm
Location: Northern CA

Re: Just posting some interesting items

Post by Dick Hosmer »

Thanks Rick, yes the pic shows the 1872 version, not the Palmer. I have both somewhere, I think. Nice dug plate!
User avatar
45govt
Posts: 78
Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:16 pm

Re: Just posting some interesting items

Post by 45govt »

Here is another couple
A silver stadia and a pair of bronze the smaller being a copy made by a gentleman in Ukraine ? I think.
Attachments
phpIAFJbZAM.jpg
phpIAFJbZAM.jpg (73.18 KiB) Viewed 55635 times
php8n8GDvAM.jpg
php8n8GDvAM.jpg (45.38 KiB) Viewed 55635 times
Thank You
Don
45govt
Image
User avatar
45govt
Posts: 78
Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:16 pm

Re: Just posting some interesting items

Post by 45govt »

Loading set
Attachments
phpix6d68AM.jpg
phpix6d68AM.jpg (30.21 KiB) Viewed 55634 times
Thank You
Don
45govt
Image
Post Reply