Random observations on 1868's and GB

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Fred Gaarde
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Re: Random observations on 1868's and GB

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Re: Random observations on 1868's and GB

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Thet don't get much better than that! It is a beauty.
Fred Gaarde
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My point on this particular musket is that if there is something a guy wants really bad, he has every right to buy it, whatever he can afford. Even if some folks will always tell him that he paid too much for a thing. He’s the owner now and he’s happy.
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John S.
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I'm envious. Those things are scarcer than Officer Model trapdoors, and probably only about 10% of those on the market in flintlock configuration are original flint, not reconversions.
Fred Gaarde
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arttodd3 wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:44 pm Thet don't get much better than that! It is a beauty.
Thanks! It’s fun to hold it and examine it! 😀
The photos that Collector’s Firearms uses are extremely sharp, so it enables one to closely examine things.
Lead Snowstorm
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Re: Random observations on 1868's and GB

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John S. wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:55 pm I'm envious. Those things are scarcer than Officer Model trapdoors, and probably only about 10% of those on the market in flintlock configuration are original flint, not reconversions.
I’d imagine much lower. At least one of my sources (Johns) thinks maybe a couple dozen Springfield examples escaped conversion, mostly from New Hampshire.

Perhaps the original flint survivors are in greater proportion among the contract muskets? I will have to take a look at Moller.
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Since this musket wasn’t stamped by a government inspector, I believe it was assembled from leftover parts after the contracted 7,000 muskets were delivered.
I think that the musket was warehoused and being already obsolete when assembled, never found a buyer, then it and others must’ve been forgotten and so avoided conversion to percussion.
By the time it was discovered, maybe in a crate, all muzzleloaders were obsolete.
I wonder how many more if any of those muskets survive in the same basically unused condition today?
This is the first one that I’ve seen.
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Re: Random observations on 1868's and GB

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Nice job Fred!!
What are the stampings below the U.S?
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I don’t know.
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