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Re: Random observations on 1868's and GB
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 1:10 pm
by Fred Gaarde

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Re: Random observations on 1868's and GB
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:44 pm
by arttodd3
Thet don't get much better than that! It is a beauty.
Re: Random observations on 1868's and GB
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:46 pm
by Fred Gaarde
My point on this particular musket is that if there is something a guy wants really bad, he has every right to buy it, whatever he can afford. Even if some folks will always tell him that he paid too much for a thing. He’s the owner now and he’s happy.

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Re: Random observations on 1868's and GB
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:55 pm
by John S.
I'm envious. Those things are scarcer than Officer Model trapdoors, and probably only about 10% of those on the market in flintlock configuration are original flint, not reconversions.
Re: Random observations on 1868's and GB
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:05 pm
by Fred Gaarde
arttodd3 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:44 pm
Thet don't get much better than that! It is a beauty.
Thanks! It’s fun to hold it and examine it!

The photos that Collector’s Firearms uses are extremely sharp, so it enables one to closely examine things.
Re: Random observations on 1868's and GB
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:37 pm
by Lead Snowstorm
John S. wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:55 pm
I'm envious. Those things are scarcer than Officer Model trapdoors, and probably only about 10% of those on the market in flintlock configuration are original flint, not reconversions.
I’d imagine much lower. At least one of my sources (Johns) thinks maybe a couple dozen Springfield examples escaped conversion, mostly from New Hampshire.
Perhaps the original flint survivors are in greater proportion among the contract muskets? I will have to take a look at Moller.
Re: Random observations on 1868's and GB
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:23 pm
by Fred Gaarde
Since this musket wasn’t stamped by a government inspector, I believe it was assembled from leftover parts after the contracted 7,000 muskets were delivered.
I think that the musket was warehoused and being already obsolete when assembled, never found a buyer, then it and others must’ve been forgotten and so avoided conversion to percussion.
By the time it was discovered, maybe in a crate, all muzzleloaders were obsolete.
I wonder how many more if any of those muskets survive in the same basically unused condition today?
This is the first one that I’ve seen.
Re: Random observations on 1868's and GB
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:28 pm
by Fred Gaarde
Before and after photos…

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Re: Random observations on 1868's and GB
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:38 pm
by carlsr
Nice job Fred!!
What are the stampings below the U.S?
Re: Random observations on 1868's and GB
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:14 pm
by Fred Gaarde
I don’t know.